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The Iranians Who Want More War

The Daily · The New York Times

📅 2026-07-28 ⏱ 29 min 🎙 Abdi Latif Dahir and Farnaz Fasihi

Key takeaways

01Iran's government granted a Times reporter rare access specifically to showcase the mass mourning for Ali Khamenei — but the choreographed funeral instead exposed crowds turning on the regime's own peacemakers.
02The attack on three ships in the Strait of Hormuz was reportedly carried out by rogue hardline Revolutionary Guards elements, surprising Iran's own president and foreign minister.
03The decisive split is no longer conservatives versus reformers but a fracture inside the ruling conservative camp: ultra-hardliners around Saeed Jalili versus pragmatists who want sanctions relief and reconstruction.
04New supreme leader Mojtaba Khamenei is in hiding, reportedly injured and voiceless, and lacks his father's authority — a power void where both factions claim his backing and divisions fester.
05Endorsing peace outright would require the supreme leader to stake the Islamic Republic's founding anti-American identity on trusting Trump — which is why he is unlikely to ever clearly pick a side.

What this episode covers

Two weeks after the U.S. and Iran signed a tentative peace deal ending a 13-day air war, Iran let a Times reporter into the country for the first time in months — to witness the stage-managed, multi-day funeral of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, killed by the U.S. and Israel in the war's opening days. Abdi Latif Dahir describes minders who filed nightly reports on his movements, millions of mourners bussed in from across the country, and one word dominating every banner, shirt and flag: intiqam, revenge. A weeping woman named Fereshteh Sultan Ali told him she wanted no negotiations, only vengeance — and that Trump could not scare Iranians with death.

The crowds' fury turned on their own government. President Pezeshkian was nearly knocked to the ground by mourners chanting against 'the compromiser'; foreign minister Araghchi had stones thrown at him and fled. Then, as the funeral closed, someone struck three ships in the Strait of Hormuz — an attack Iran conspicuously never claimed. Farnaz Fasihi's sources say it surprised Iran's own president and foreign minister: rogue hardline elements in the Revolutionary Guards, apparently acting without central command to drag the country back to war.

Fasihi maps the real fight, which is now inside the conservative camp itself: ultra-hardliners around Saeed Jalili — perhaps 10 to 20 percent of the country, but the theocracy's loyal base — against the pragmatists in the senior leadership and Revolutionary Guards who want sanctions lifted and the country rebuilt. Hovering over both is the new supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei: in hiding for fear of assassination, reportedly burned and unable to speak after the strike that killed his father, and lacking the religious and political clout to end the infighting. Both factions claim him; lawmakers have even accused the government of staging a coup to bypass him. Meanwhile a silent majority — squeezed by 400 percent inflation on basic groceries — signs petitions demanding the pro-war politicians be sent south to live under the bombardments they advocate. By episode's end, the U.S. had resumed strikes, and the fragile peace was crumbling.

Why listen: A rare inside-Iran report that explains why a peace deal both governments signed keeps collapsing: the people who can restart the war aren't the ones who negotiated it.

Chapters

“Trump cannot scare us with death.” Fereshteh Sultan Ali · at 5:15 —
“It seems like Iran's government and leadership is at war with itself.” Farnaz Fasihi · at 11:55 —

About the guest

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Abdi Latif Dahir and Farnaz Fasihi

Dahir is a New York Times correspondent who became the first Times reporter allowed into Iran in months, reporting from Ayatollah Khamenei's funeral in Tehran. Fasihi is a Times reporter and longtime expert on the internal workings of Iran's government.

Mentioned in this episode

Ali KhameneiMojtaba KhameneiSaeed JaliliPresident PezeshkianAbbas AraghchiRevolutionary GuardsStrait of HormuzDonald TrumpMike WaltzThe New York Timesmemorandum of understanding

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