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2028 Presidential Fantasy Draft

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Brief overview

Three commentators draft 2028 nominees, and nearly every pick turns on Trump's shadow and electability.

  1. Trump's shadow decides the Republican fieldSwisher bets on a Rubio drift and a Trump-Vance rift, and says anyone associated with Trump will lose.
  2. Donor electability talk points to a white guySwisher says women candidates and donors have told her they will back a white guy, so she opens with Gavin Newsom.
  3. Digital reach now beats a conventional resumeLemon argues a candidate must carry a message from podcast to social media to debate, which is why he worries about Kamala Harris.
Executive Summary AI
  • Host Astead Herndon opens by calling 2028 the messiest campaign yet and the first open contest for both parties since 2016, then invites Kara Swisher and Don Lemon to each draft four names.0:12
  • In the Republican round Kara Swisher takes Marco Rubio first as the safest and most qualified choice, Don Lemon takes Tucker Carlson for his platform and MAGA reach, and Herndon takes J.D. Vance for his foot in both worlds.5:02
  • The finished Republican teams are Swisher with Rubio, RFK Jr., Ivanka Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene; Lemon with Tucker Carlson, Thomas Massey, Ted Cruz and Glenn Youngkin; Herndon with Vance, Donald Trump, Brian Kemp and Sarah Huckabee Sanders.17:42
  • On the Democratic side Swisher argues donors have told her they will back a white guy and opens with Gavin Newsom, adding Mark Cuban, Gina Raimondo and J.B. Pritzker, while Lemon takes AOC, Wes Moore, himself and George Clooney and Herndon takes Kamala Harris, John Ossoff, Josh Shapiro and Raphael Warnock.21:26
  • In the closing takeaways Lemon says there is no one on the Democratic board he would not vote for, Swisher says anyone associated with Trump cannot win, and Herndon says the Vance-Trump relationship and the electability question are the decisive ones.38:45
Key Quote
“Well, he has all the charm of a wet towel, but I think he's the safest choice.”
— Kara Swisher5:09
Key Quote
“It has to be a guy, unfortunately.”
— Kara Swisher21:26
Key Quote
“I'm not an insider and I am not a Democrat.”
— Don Lemon31:51