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Final Episode: Murder Sages Farewell

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Brief overview

After six years and 120 episodes, a Dutch true-crime podcast signs off and explains why.

  1. Public sources only, so anyone could do itThey base every episode on open material, saying that what they do, every listener could do.
  2. Respect for the bereaved grew with the audienceWith 200,000 listeners they became far more careful with names, images and the language they use.
  3. Stopping on a high point, not on a declineThe two-weekly cycle started to feel like routine, which they refuse to let happen to gruesome cases.
Executive Summary AI
  • In the final episode of the Dutch murder-cases podcast, hosts Carrie and Eddie are interviewed at their own kitchen table by Hanneke Sezing, a listener from the first hour who became their book publisher, after 120 episodes and six years.0:30
  • They describe the work behind an episode: roughly a week of preparation per two-week release, both researching independently through public sources such as court reports, documentaries and old newspaper articles, with Carrie building the story line and Eddie doing the edit and the social media.5:15
  • On the criticism that true crime turns human suffering into entertainment, they say the test they apply each time is "Do I serve the story or do I use the victims for it?", and that they only discuss solved Dutch cases, avoid the criminal milieu and children's cases, and stopped naming people whose names added nothing.12:51
  • The moments they name as the payoff are listeners queuing at the Tivoli theatre shows to say what the podcast meant to them during corona, the public-voted award, the books, and visits to the Vught prison and to Peter van Koppen and Frank van der Goot.33:56
  • They stop at about 40 million streams because the two-weekly routine was dulling material that should never feel routine, and because, as they put it, it is nice to stop at a high point, while the episodes stay online and other projects follow.52:44
Key Quote
“I remember well that I discovered your podcast during corona.”
— Hanneke1:20
Key Quote
“I really want to know everything.”
— Carrie10:55
Key Quote
“And I don't want to be known as the man with that raspy voice.”
— Eddie51:52