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Jessica Baker on The Social

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  • Canadian true crime host Christy Lee and survivor Jessica Baker debrief after appearing on CTV's The Social, a daytime talk show described as Canada's version of The View, to discuss the trial of former Hedley frontman Jacob Hoggard.0:10
  • Since the CBC documentary Breaking Idol, directed by Tiffany Chung, was released in November 2025, Jessica had turned down multiple media requests, partly because she did not want to go alone or appear to be seeking fame.1:29
  • Christy recounts her first Canadian TV appearance in January 2020, where a vague producer, imposter syndrome and an ADHD brain blank left her speechless, leading her to refuse almost every media opportunity for six years.2:36
  • The Social was different: producer Megan did a pre-interview, sent questions in advance and ran a rehearsal, and the team followed trauma-informed practices like allowing a support person, limiting the audience and inviting the Kindness Circle.6:26
  • On air Jessica described testifying as a second assault and the worst day of her life, the audience gave her a standing ovation, and Kindness Circle members embraced her on the sidewalk afterwards.12:55

Brief overview

Trauma-informed preparation at CTV's The Social let survivor Jessica Baker tell her story safely and confidently.

  1. Preparation turns TV from ordeal into opportunityChristy froze on a vague 2020 panel but succeeded on The Social after a pre-interview, advance questions and rehearsal.
  2. Trauma-informed journalism protects survivorsExplaining the process, sharing questions, offering breaks and allowing a support person create a safe, predictable environment.
  3. Public support can empower survivorsJessica feared revealing her identity but received a standing ovation and strangers' kindness on the street.

Questions this recording answers

9 questions, each answered where it is said
What is trauma-informed journalism?

Citing Tamara Cherry, author of The Trauma Beat, Christy explains it means understanding how trauma affects a person before, during and after an interview, then adapting the process to create a safe, predictable and supportive environment, such as explaining the process, sharing questions, offering breaks and following up.

Answered around 8:51
How did The Social accommodate Jessica as a survivor?

They let Christy attend as a trusted support person, offered Jessica the chance to do the segment away from the studio audience, limited the audience to a smaller number, invited the Kindness Circle as cheerleaders, and informed everyone about the serious nature of the segment without being asked.

Answered around 9:32
Why had Jessica turned down media interviews before?

After the CBC documentary Breaking Idol was released in November 2025, multiple outlets asked for interviews. She declined because she did not want to do them alone, had retreated after her identity was revealed, and did not want people thinking she wanted to be famous.

Answered around 1:36
What went wrong in Christy Lee's first TV appearance?

In January 2020, on a Saturday night pop culture show, the producer was vague about questions. Feeling like an imposter beside Toronto Star reporter Kevin Donovan, she called herself the resident hack, then had an ADHD brain blank on the first question and had to restart.

Answered around 2:36
How did The Social prepare Christy for her first appearance there?

In January, discussing her Robert Pickton series, producer Megan, who follows true crime, did her research, held a pre-interview, sent the questions in advance and ran a rehearsal about an hour before the live taping. Christy felt given the best chance to succeed and had no brain blanks.

Answered around 6:26
What is explanatory journalism?

Christy says her work is legitimate explanatory journalism: taking complex subjects, connecting the dots and adding context that cannot always fit into a standard news article, then making it accessible to a different audience. Back in 2020 she lacked this language and felt like an imposter.

Answered around 4:32
Why did Jessica come forward in the Jacob Hoggard case?

She originally declined to report because he was very popular and she thought nobody would believe her. She came forward after seeing an arrest involving another complainant who was 16 years old, so she could corroborate that story because the accounts were very similar.

Answered around 11:18
How did Jessica describe testifying at trial?

She said testifying was like a second assault: talking about the worst thing that ever happened to you in front of a room of people judging everything you say. Being on the stand was the worst day of her life, and she felt completely alone that night.

Answered around 13:01
How did the audience react to Jessica's segment?

The live audience gave Jessica a standing ovation and she started crying on stage. Afterwards members of the Kindness Circle, a Canadian community organization focused on empathy and charitable giving, stopped her on the sidewalk to praise her bravery and hug her.

Answered around 13:42
Key Quote
“You could tell that they really took care of the sensitive subject matter that we were talking about.”
— Jessica Baker1:07
Key Quote
“So I just pick my opportunities very, I'm very picky.”
— Jessica Baker2:21
Key Quote
“But when I walked out of the TV studio that day, I made a decision.”
— Christy Lee5:53
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