La Crosse, Wisconsin made talking about death routine, so 96% of residents who die have planned it.
96% of the people who die in La Crosse, Wisconsin have planned for their death. Across the country about 30 percent of adults have done some end-of-life planning, and even among severely ill people it is only about half.
Answered around 1:56Bud Hammes, a medical ethicist at Gundersen Health Systems, began in the dialysis center, where only two of 60 patients had directives. He trained nurses to ask every patient; after one nurse went first, others followed and the other La Crosse hospital asked for the training too.
Answered around 8:08In the Dartmouth data La Crosse spends less per Medicare patient than any of 306 regions. One quarter of health care spending is on the last year of life, and when people are asked ahead of time most choose to stop aggressive treatment, which costs much less.
Answered around 15:46No. CEO Jeff Thompson says Gundersen loses money on the program: there is no billing code for advance care planning, and the savings go to Medicare and insurers. He keeps it because it is the right thing for patients and the community would revolt if it were removed.
Answered around 17:21Gundersen helped write a provision paying for advance care planning in the health reform bill, but it was attacked as death panels, with Sarah Palin warning of rationing. The law passed without it but rewarded providers that cut spending, so many now ask Bud Hammes how to do it.
Answered around 19:14“96% of the people who die in La Crosse have planned for their death.”
“I'm from the America where talking about death is like talking about sex.”
“The moral distress that these families were suffering was palpable.”
“Stop, because I've seen that where they're just there.”
“There's no billing code for advanced care planning.”
“We spend money on a program that ultimately will decrease our revenue stream.”
“La Crosse's Death Plans.” https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/02/28/283444163/episode-521-the-town-that-loves-death. Transcript summary by WhipScribe, https://whipscribe.com/transcript-pages/la-crosse-s-death-plans.html.