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Brief overview

FOIA'd WPATH forum messages show members privately admitting the harms they deny publicly.

  1. A FOIA sidestepped a private forumWPATH's member board is not FOIA-able, but its emails to Washington Department of Corrections staff were, yielding almost 250 pages.
  2. Members privately concede what WPATH denies publiclyThe forum discusses vaginoplasty complications, detransition protocols and regret that the organization's public statements do not acknowledge.
  3. Pressure now runs through courts and communitiesThe FTC sued WPATH in June, and Brock argues change ultimately comes when enough medical professionals refuse.
Executive Summary AI
  • Tim Rice opens Behind the Story with Daily Wire investigative reporter Megan Brock, who published a three-part expose on WPATH, the World Professional Association of Transgender Health, first organized in 1979 and author of the Standards of Care version 8 that guides doctors, legislators and insurers.1:01
  • Brock explains she obtained the material by accident of persistence: while FOIAing the Washington Department of Corrections, whose staff must be WPATH certified, she noticed WPATH emails reaching government accounts, filed a follow-up request and received almost 250 pages of the members-only forum.4:08
  • The first piece covers vaginoplasty complications, including patients abandoning lifelong dilation because of pain and bleeding, and a message Brock attributes to a past president of WPATH saying regret should not be the first response.7:32
  • Brock also cites the Federal Trade Commission lawsuit filed against WPATH in June and videos from a 2022 scientific symposium where a doctor warned that blocking an 11-year-old boy's puberty blocks the growth of the future surgical site, while the second piece shows members asking how to source estrogen for a young woman who had her breasts, uterus and ovaries removed and now wants to detransition12:11
  • The third piece covers Washington's placement of male inmates in female prisons, where gender-affirming program administrator Michelle Webb urged the female population to hold frank discussions rather than object, and Brock closes by urging ordinary people to push back at schools and pediatricians' offices.21:05
Key Quote
“Yeah, so WPATH is the World Professional Association of Transgender Health. And they're a group that's been around for a long time.”
— Megan Brock2:10
Key Quote
“And then one of the members, I believe this was the past president, said, just because someone does not wish to maintain their vagina because of pain and discharge, jumping to regret should not be our first response.”
— Megan Brock9:05
Key Quote
“it's truly one of the craziest like hey guys we're mutilating people's bodies so much so that it is causing a lot of them to want to stop doing the very invasive and expensive and life-altering thing that they asked us to do.”
— Tim Rice9:26