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Queenie's 30s Journey

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  • Fern Cotton opens the Happy Place Book Club with an excerpt and introduces Queenie Is Working On It by Candice Carty-Williams, the follow-up to 2019's Queenie, recorded as a live chat at the Happy Place Festival.1:52
  • Carty-Williams says she wrote Queenie at 26 or 27 and waited to live some of her 30s first, then researched fertility like a research project so that every fact in the book is real.5:08
  • She wove in medical racism after acting as advocate for her sister, now 28, who had a baby five years ago and was treated in ways nobody could explain.8:54
  • She builds characters as amalgams of people she has met, gives each a star sign, prizes female friendship and accountability over romance, and wanted Queenie to be a black Bridget Jones.10:36
  • On process she writes from about 3 p.m. into the night, talks to her editor when overwhelmed, urges aspiring writers to finish the draft, and names On Connection by Kay Tempest as a book she returns to.24:27

Brief overview

Candice Carty-Williams says Queenie Is Working On It tackles fertility, medical racism and female friendship in your 30s.

  1. Every fertility fact in the novel is realCarty-Williams researched fertility first and felt it was a duty to inform.
  2. Friendship matters more than romanceShe says writing friendship love will always be more important to her than anything else.
  3. Take your time and finish the draftShe advises aspiring writers to get words on the page and not rush.

Questions this recording answers

10 questions, each answered where it is said
What is Queenie Is Working On It about?

It is Candice Carty-Williams's follow-up to 2019's Queenie. Queenie Jenkins, now in her early to mid-30s, is questioning whether she wants kids, is being priced out of the housing market where she grew up, and is coping with heartbreak. Fern Cotton calls it perfect escapism.

Answered around 2:00
How did Candice Carty-Williams research fertility for the novel?

She approached it almost like a research project, doing a lot of research first and then weaving it into the story. She felt it was a duty to inform, so the fertility facts are couched in funny stories or tips, but every single fact in the book is real.

Answered around 6:26
Why did Carty-Williams include medical racism in Queenie Is Working On It?

She saw it as necessary, both a story and a warning. When her sister, now 28, had a baby five years ago, she went as her advocate and could not believe how her sister was treated as a young black woman, with nobody able to explain why.

Answered around 7:25
Where do Candice Carty-Williams's characters come from?

They are amalgams of people she has met and spoken to, never person for person. She is obsessed with listening to people, focuses on character over plot, which she calls a side quest, and gives every character a star sign to help figure out who they are.

Answered around 10:36
Why is female friendship central to Queenie's story?

Carty-Williams says in your 30s accountability comes into play, and it is good to have friends who call you out and question your motivations. Queenie's friends love her enough to make her interrogate her choices, and writing friendship love matters more to her than anything else.

Answered around 15:01
How did Bridget Jones inspire Queenie?

When first writing, she said she wanted it to be a black Bridget Jones, in everyone's house. She found Bridget Jones's Diary at her aunt's house aged 12, and Queenie's best friend is called Darcy in the first book as a love letter and a thank you.

Answered around 20:11
What is Candice Carty-Williams's daily writing routine?

She says her brain turns on at about 12, she gets to her office around 3 p.m. and works until nighttime. The office is a little pink room with a big sofa; the colour coding on the wall is mostly for show. She stopped writing in bed because she fell asleep.

Answered around 23:21
What does she do when a book feels too overwhelming to finish?

She talks about it, with friends and especially her editor, explaining where she is and what she cannot do. Having someone in charge understand takes the pressure off, like telling the teacher. She stresses taking time, since rushing never gives the best results.

Answered around 26:10
What advice does Candice Carty-Williams give aspiring writers?

Just get the words on the page rather than waiting with three chapters. A debut is the only time the work is purely yours before it becomes work. Enjoy the first draft but finish it, because many agents are looking for certain things, so have it ready.

Answered around 30:14
Which books do Fern Cotton and Candice Carty-Williams return to?

Fern Cotton repeatedly returns to The Four Agreements when in a dark space. Carty-Williams goes back to On Connection by Kay Tempest, a tiny book about reconnecting with yourself and others, which she found when she was working all the time and not seeing friends or family.

Answered around 37:34
Key Quote
“But all of them are real. Every single every single fact is real.”
— Candice Carty-Williams6:49
Key Quote
“I want it to be a black Bridget Jones”
— Candice Carty-Williams20:16
Key Quote
“I would say with all things it's about taking time”
— Candice Carty-Williams26:48
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