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  • Stephen and Shay open Ambassadors, the behind-the-scenes show of the Between Two Beers podcast, joking about a green outfit from Barkers and a possible concussion after a five-year-old dropped an encyclopedia on one host's head.0:00
  • They discuss the Izzy Dagg episode, which covered his difficult upbringing, his 2023 rock bottom and sobriety, drew coverage in The Herald and Stuff, a reel with about a million views, and a LinkedIn piece by author Chris Valley on identity after rugby.4:10
  • After meeting the Envivo founders about a possible Sarah Jessica Parker interview, they each name dream guests, including Louis Theroux, Sir Peter Jackson, Roy Keane, Jurgen Klopp, Dr. Dre, Ricky Gervais, Lydia Ko, Jimmy Carr and Amy Poehler.12:30
  • They recap a team dinner in Auckland with their team of eight, MCing the Master Builders House of the Year Awards, commentating the Auckland FC versus Tottenham game before over 40,000 fans, and $292 of TAB winnings to give to listeners.19:00
  • They preview next week's episode with Becky Ross, a Hamilton mother of two and teacher with stage four terminal cancer, describing the emotional research with her family and ending with her daughter Maddie's words.31:38

Brief overview

The hosts reflect on Izzy Dagg's powerful recovery episode and preview Becky Ross's story of terminal cancer.

  1. Izzy Dagg's honesty about recovery struck a huge chordListeners flooded him with responses, and his 'own your shit' reel reached about a million views.
  2. Research calls with friends and family shape every episodeThe hosts call three or four people each, often for 30 to 40 emotional minutes.
  3. Becky Ross's episode is a story of perspective, not just cancerDespite stage four terminal cancer, she came across as energetic, optimistic and inspiring.

Questions this recording answers

8 questions, each answered where it is said
How did the Between Two Beers team research Izzy Dagg's episode?

They normally call three or four friends each. With Izzy, one host first had a 20-minute call with him about the messages he wanted to share, then took those topics to friends and family. Some calls were emotional, as friends recalled staging interventions during his 2023 rock bottom and how proud they are now.

Answered around 6:22
How have listeners responded to the Izzy Dagg episode?

The response has been overwhelming. Izzy called to say he was overwhelmed by it. YouTube comments and Instagram reels are full of people saying they have walked in those shoes, and one reel ending with his message that you've got to own your shit has done about a million views.

Answered around 8:25
What did Chris Valley write about Izzy Dagg's story?

The New Zealand author and speaker wrote on LinkedIn that elite rugby prepares players for big games but not always for life after rugby. He said Dagg's recovery began when he stopped defining himself by his status, and that many men build self-worth on what they do rather than who they are.

Answered around 10:31
Which dream guests would the hosts most like to interview?

One host listed Louis Theroux, Sir Peter Jackson, Roy Keane, Jurgen Klopp and Dr. Dre. The other named Ricky Gervais, Lydia Ko, Barack Obama, Jimmy Carr, whom they nearly booked on his Hamilton tour stop, and Amy Poehler. The list followed a meeting with Envivo about possibly interviewing Sarah Jessica Parker.

Answered around 13:20
Who is Becky Ross and why was she chosen as a guest?

Becky Ross is a Hamilton mother of two, school teacher and community champion with stage four terminal cancer. Shara suggested her because cancer touches almost everyone and because Becky lived with a bright, optimistic perspective even before her diagnosis. One of her best friends also messaged the show suggesting her at the same time.

Answered around 31:50
Why did so many people attend the Auckland FC versus Tottenham match?

Over 40,000 attended, the highest for a men's football match in New Zealand. The hosts point to a Michael Burgess article: New Zealanders in the 1980s mainly saw the FA Cup, which Tottenham reached in 81, 82, 87 and 91, plus the novelty of a Premier League club visiting after West Ham in 2013.

Answered around 27:11
How do the hosts care for guests after emotional interviews?

They say they never just record a conversation and say goodbye. They make a concerted effort to stay connected and check people are okay after leaving, as they did with Izzy and Becky. Becky's daughter Maddie said Becky was the most energetic she had seen her in a long while.

Answered around 40:37
What is Stark building in Hamilton?

Stark broke ground on a new orthopaedic hospital in Hamilton's CBD, in partnership with Anglesey and Evolution Healthcare. It is expected to be completed at the end of 2027 and will be another state-of-the-art medical facility that the hosts say continues Stark's role in changing the face of Hamilton.

Answered around 30:53
Key Quote
“It's nothing compared to what Izzy spoke about on the episode.”
— Host4:57
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“The feedback from the listeners has been overwhelming.”
— Host8:25
Key Quote
“And I don't know anyone that hasn't been somehow impacted by cancer, right?”
— Shara32:34
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