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Rest Is Productive

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  • Sheila Shoiga's last Ready to be Real episode before the summer break features clinical psychologist Dr. Mally Coyne, from Galway, on why rest is so hard while juggling careers and parenting.0:00
  • Mally explains the tricky brain's three emotional systems of threat, drive and soothing, and how a toxic drive loop sidelines rest, telling a Leaving Cert student that a walk would help her perform better because rest is productive.1:14
  • She says the body whispers before it screams, describing her own short naps between clients, the HALT signals of hungry, angry, lonely and tired, and how children who were not validated lose touch with their bodily signals.7:29
  • The two mothers discuss shouting at their kids when their cups are empty, the power of repair, Mally's book Love In, Love Out, and a physiological double breath to calm down in the moment.28:49
  • Mally closes with the self-compassion break, asking for help, habit stacking and a five-minute lap of the green before entering the house, and Sheila signs off until September.43:25

Brief overview

Rest is productive: listening to the body's early whispers builds healthier drive and calmer parenting.

  1. Rest makes you more productive, not lessMally told a Leaving Cert student a walk would help her think and perform better.
  2. Answer the body's whispers before it screamsShort naps, breaths or a five-minute walk can prevent burnout and crashing.
  3. Repair matters more than being a perfect parentSaying sorry after shouting builds strong connections, and it happens in every household.

Questions this recording answers

10 questions, each answered where it is said
Why is it so hard for people to rest?

Dr. Mally Coyne says it comes from our upbringing and a productivity-driven culture. The tricky brain scans for threats, once lions, now deadlines, social comparison and uncertainty. When threatened, we switch into drive, doing more to reduce anxiety, while the soothing system, which covers rest, connection and feeling safe, gets forgotten.

Answered around 1:14
What are the three emotional systems a psychologist uses to explain rest?

Mally describes threat, which keeps us safe through fight or flight; drive, which is about goals and achieving; and soothing, which covers connection, feeling safe and rest. Clients often come to her because the soothing system is neglected, and a toxic drive loop fuelled by threat takes over.

Answered around 2:41
Does rest actually make you more productive?

Yes. Mally told a Leaving Cert student who skipped walks to study that walking would help her perform better, letting her prefrontal cortex think clearly and concentrate. Her advice was that if you won't rest for yourself, do it for the goal you have in mind, because rest is productive.

Answered around 5:29
How can I notice when my body needs rest?

Mally says the body whispers before it screams. Tune in by placing a hand on your chest or belly, breathing and asking what it needs. She uses the HALT acronym: hungry, angry, lonely, tired. She herself sets an alarm and closes her eyes briefly between evening clients.

Answered around 7:29
Why do some adults struggle to recognise hunger, tiredness or emotions?

Mally explains that children who were told to push through when sick or tired, or whose feelings weren't validated, stop using those brain connections. Children scanning for danger at home watch external signals instead of internal ones, so they lose trust in their bodies and the signal fades.

Answered around 18:48
What should parents do after shouting at their children?

Mally says repair is the fertile ground on which amazing brain connections are built. Apologise without blaming the child, for example explaining that mommy was tired or should have eaten. This happens in every household, and what's on Instagram is not the reality of life.

Answered around 31:04
What breathing technique helps calm you down in a heated moment?

Mally recommends a double breath, which she thinks is called the physiological breath: breathe in deeply through your nose, take another breath in through your nose, pause, then let out a big breath through your mouth. A couple of these can clarify your mind in the moment.

Answered around 34:24
How do you give yourself permission to rest without guilt?

Mally notes there will always be more to do, so plan replenishment before busy days. Guilt often hides core beliefs like 'if I'm not doing, I'm not valuable'. Ask what you'd tell a best friend running on empty, and remember we're human beings, not human doings.

Answered around 37:50
What is the self-compassion break?

Breathe in and out with one hand on your chest and one on your belly. Acknowledge that this is a difficult moment and name the feeling, such as guilt or laziness. Remind yourself you are not alone, since everyone shares these feelings, then say: may I be kind to myself in this moment.

Answered around 43:25
What small habits can build rest into a busy day?

When she worked away from home, Mally parked down the road and did a five-minute lap of the green before going in, arriving much more regulated. She also mentions Brian Penny's habit stacking, like getting water when passing the water cooler, and setting phone reminders to preempt rest.

Answered around 47:10
Key Quote
“If not for yourself, do it for the goal that you have in mind, because actually like rest is productive.”
— Dr. Mally Coyne5:58
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“What's on Instagram is not the reality of life.”
— Dr. Mally Coyne31:37
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“But let the reward be what your body thanks you for.”
— Dr. Mally Coyne42:53
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