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Twilight of Australian Exceptionalism

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  • David Speers interviews Paul Kelly about his book The Twilight of Exceptionalism, the third in a series on the 2013 to 2022 coalition government.2:46
  • Kelly argues Australia's era of exceptionalism under Hawke, Keating, Howard and Costello is gone, shown by stagnant living standards, weak reform, budget deficits and a disintegration of shared values.3:15
  • He describes Tony Abbott as a muscular but humble conservative who depended on Peta Credlin, and Malcolm Turnbull as an optimistic technocrat with enemies in front and behind.9:23
  • Kelly rates Scott Morrison the most significant of the three, citing the 2019 win, China's trade coercion and a top-two OECD economic response to COVID, though he lost the politics of the pandemic.16:40
  • On today's politics, Kelly credits Anthony Albanese with restoring stability and warns that any Liberal coalition with Pauline Hanson's One Nation would doom the Liberals as a governing party.20:33

Brief overview

Paul Kelly argues Australia has lost its reformist exceptionalism and now faces a crisis of the system.

  1. Australia no longer leads the world on reformKelly points to flatline productivity, falling real wages and high deficits.
  2. Each coalition prime minister disappointedNone of Abbott, Turnbull or Morrison achieved the dominance of Hawke or Howard.
  3. Courting One Nation is a Liberal mistakeKelly backs Angus Taylor's refusal of any coalition with One Nation.

Questions this recording answers

5 questions, each answered where it is said
What does Paul Kelly mean by the twilight of Australian exceptionalism?

Kelly says Australia once led the world in economic and social reform under Hawke, Keating, Howard and Costello, but that era is gone. He points to stagnant living standards, weak economic reform, substantial budget deficits and community unhappiness as signs that governments and the country are not performing.

Answered around 3:15
Which coalition prime minister does Paul Kelly rate most highly?

He calls Scott Morrison the most significant of the three, given the 2019 election win, which he says only Morrison could have won, and his handling of China's trade coercion and the COVID economic response, which ranked in the OECD's top two. Morrison still lost the politics of COVID.

Answered around 16:40
Why did Tony Abbott rely so much on Peta Credlin?

Kelly argues that beneath his muscular image Abbott was a very humble man with self-doubt, the most humble prime minister since Gough Whitlam. Abbott believed his 2013 win was a joint effort with his chief of staff and that he could only succeed working with her.

Answered around 12:20
Why should the Liberals avoid a deal with One Nation, according to Kelly?

Although One Nation polls between 20% and 29%, Pauline Hanson is still rejected across much of urban Australia. Kelly says any alliance gives Labor its campaign script, and a coalition in which One Nation is the major party would mean the end of the Liberal Party.

Answered around 23:13
What has Anthony Albanese achieved, in Kelly's view?

Kelly credits Albanese with returning stability to the prime ministership after the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd and Abbott-Turnbull-Morrison years, with conspicuous discipline and unity in Labor. But he says the crisis of the system remains, with flatline productivity, falling real wages and high debt and deficits.

Answered around 20:33
Key Quote

“Australia no longer leads the world. We are no longer pioneers of first best economic and social reform.”

— Paul Kelly, Twilight of Australian Exceptionalism, at 3:46▶ listen at 3:46
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“I've known every Australian prime minister since Gough Whitlam, and I argue in the book, Tony Abbott was certainly the most humble.”

— Paul Kelly, Twilight of Australian Exceptionalism, at 12:40▶ listen at 12:40
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“I've called him in the book an optimistic technocrat.”

— Paul Kelly, Twilight of Australian Exceptionalism, at 13:59▶ listen at 13:59
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“I think Morrison was the most significant of the three prime ministers given his achievements and given the challenges that he faced on his watch.”

— Paul Kelly, Twilight of Australian Exceptionalism, at 16:40▶ listen at 16:40
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“I think the answer to that, David, is that each of these prime ministers disappointed and each of them disappointed in their own unique way.”

— Paul Kelly, Twilight of Australian Exceptionalism, at 19:17▶ listen at 19:17
Key Quote

“I've always been an optimist, David.”

— Paul Kelly, Twilight of Australian Exceptionalism, at 27:42▶ listen at 27:42

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“Twilight of Australian Exceptionalism.” https://mediacore-live-production.akamaized.net/audio/02/n1/Z/qh.mp3. Transcript summary by WhipScribe, https://whipscribe.com/transcript-pages/twilight-of-australian-exceptionalism.html.

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